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Peter "so fucking done" Pettigrew (somanyregrets) wrote,
@ 2008-11-27 09:25:00

Am I the only one that would like to see a citation for where that "six times more likely to fail" statistic came from?

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Fucking hell. James Potter reproduced. I don't know whether to be elated or horrified for the future of the world. I think I'll just go with a little of both.

Hell. Before we know it, Remus will be the next to...

God, I feel old.

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	Order. jamesopotter 2008-11-27 08:41 am UTC (link)
	Out of Narcissa Malfoy's arse. We always thought she had a stick up there, but now we find out it was really a scroll with ridiculous statistics. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	James. seirios 2008-11-27 08:50 am UTC (link)
	Have you told him yet?! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Sirius. jamesopotter 2008-11-27 08:52 am UTC (link)
	It's Pete! Of course I did. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	James. seirios 2008-11-27 08:53 am UTC (link)
	Well I don't know, I didn't see him! He's quiet as a mouse sometimes. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Sirius. jamesopotter 2008-11-27 08:55 am UTC (link)
	I think you were back with the girls and they were screaming still. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	James. seirios 2008-11-27 08:56 am UTC (link)
	Oh, that's cause I wanted to see if Evans was padding her boobs. You are very lucky. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	on_the_wall 2008-11-27 08:53 am UTC (link)
	It's probably one specific incident ever, and Very Detailed Statistics were milked from it. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	somanyregrets 2008-11-27 09:33 am UTC (link)
	Now, if we're going to do that, we could take my parents' marriage and say that marriages between purebloods and muggles only end in tragic circumstances. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	on_the_wall 2008-11-27 09:38 am UTC (link)
	You could do that with pretty much anything, if that's how they're playing. Apparently all marriages between fullbloods and halfbloods end tragically too. Same with a muggle and a muggle, or a muggleborn and a pureblood, or two purebloods. People should just stay out of other people's married lives and everyone would be fine, because it's none of anyone else's business. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Peter. seirios 2008-11-27 08:55 am UTC (link)
	Are you still working yourself to death or can you afford a night off? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Sirius. somanyregrets 2008-11-27 09:28 am UTC (link)
	I can afford a night off. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Peter. seirios 2008-11-27 09:33 am UTC (link)
	I'm thinking cake. Possibly jelly and icecream. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Sirius. somanyregrets 2008-11-27 09:40 am UTC (link)
	If we're celebrating what I think we are, should I pick up some confetti and noisemakers, too? Make as much of a riot as possible? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Peter. seirios 2008-11-27 09:46 am UTC (link)
	Not with the rate that she pukes up. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	quirkless 2008-11-27 09:39 am UTC (link)
	Statistics are never exact, and then there are varying interpretations of the word "fail" as well. It's imprecise. (Reply to this)

abcroaker
2008-11-27 12:58 pm UTC (link)

Personally I doubt there is a specific citation. Given where I suspect these posters are coming from, they are nothing more than grotesque propaganda. The so-called 'statistic' probably comes from some frivolous magazine or newspaper article and has probably been quoted very much out of context. That is, assuming it hasn't been made up out of whole cloth.

I do not trust any random statistic if I do not have the official journal article with all of the information on the survey or experiment that supports that statistic.

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quirkless
2008-11-27 01:26 pm UTC (link)

To be entirely fair, you'd need to know every single mixed (and by mixed, I believe it would be implying one Magical Partner and one Muggle Parter, not a Pureblood and a Muggleborn, for instance) couple ever and the state of the marriage, plus every non-mixed couple ever and the state of their marriage, plus a set definition of "fail" for anything of this nature to be entirely accurate. You can't expect perfect accuracy from anything.

And I think both sides of the argument would do better to talk to people that were actually born into mixed-unions before drawing any conclusion. ~~But in my experience, failure is common.~~

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astralogy
2008-11-27 02:12 pm UTC (link)

Muggleborns are not counted as Muggles, no. They have magic the same as everybody else and are fully capable of operating in the wizarding world, and understanding it to enough of a level that they wouldn't have a problem with practical, everyday situations. Their situation is rather happier than a Muggle who has no real connection to our world other than their spouse and perhaps a few friends.

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	quirkless 2008-11-27 02:16 pm UTC (link)
	Rather. Numbers aside, mixed marriages between Magical and non-magical peoples seem like they would logically have more reason to fail than a non-mixed marriage, even if people are too skeptical of the numbers to believe it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

astralogy
2008-11-27 02:23 pm UTC (link)

Yes, I understand that people may be skeptical but it's quite sad that a certain part of the population will throw mud at anything simply because a pureblood says it. We really are trying to do some good with campaigns like this, as much as with the charity drives. If it was mindless radical propaganda surely we'd be condemning marriages with Muggleborns, too, but I really have absolutely no issue with that at all because the context of the relationship is completely different. A marriage between, say, a halfblood and a Muggleborn is statistically far more likely to flourish than between a halfblood and a Muggle.

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	somanyregrets 2008-11-27 02:26 pm UTC (link)
	Or a pureblood and a muggle? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	Peter. fortiscadere 2008-11-27 02:14 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Severus. somanyregrets 2008-11-27 02:21 pm UTC (link)
	I could understand twice, maybe even three as being reasonable. But six times? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Peter. fortiscadere 2008-11-27 02:27 pm UTC (link)
	Well from their definition of fail as well, my parents marriage was not a failure, which is rubbish considering the shit that went on at my house. As far as I'm concerned any marriage where there's no communication between one partner to the other is a failure. I don't care how long magic's been in your family. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	hippocratically 2008-11-27 08:16 pm UTC (link)
	It's actually on page 600 of a very scientific text...it's called Stuff I Made Up by B.S. Tripe. (Reply to this)